Showing posts with label England. Show all posts
Showing posts with label England. Show all posts

Sunday, August 30, 2015

Weekly Puzzle - Thomas the Owler, miscreant?

Thomas Trindle owler  -  Stamford Mercury 11 apr 1717
Justice was a little more difficult in England in the 18th century.  Even though Thomas was acquitted he was not freed as the "government" appealed.  I didn't find anything more in the papers.  Did he in fact get found guilty after appeal?  Did he die in prison? Who is he? Next step would be to delve into court records.

A century later. Elizabeth Trindle was committed to the Castle in August of 1822 charged with uttering forged notes along with her companions Ann Rummer, James Drury and Peter Cannell, she was tried, found guilty and sentenced to death in March of 1823.


Norfolk Chronicle - 17 aug 1822 p 2 Postscripts
Norfolk Chronicle - 26 Mar 1823 p 4





















Elizabeth was one of the lucky ones.   On 3 Jun 1823 she sailed on the Mary one of 27 convicts in a group of 127 female convicts who was transported for life.  The Mary arrived in New South Wales and Van Diemen's Land on 5 Oct 1823. (2) Anne Rummer was among those on the vessel. It appears James Drury was also transported.

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But....who is Elizabeth.  Is Trindle her maiden name or a married name.  I have not been able to find any verifiable records for her in England or Australia. (Searches were made allowing for all spelling variations.) There is an Elizabeth Trindell who died in Tasmania in 1825 and an Elizabeth Trinder (father Scott Williams) who died in Victoria in 1873.  Elizabeth Trindle m. Alexander McLean in 1857 in NSW. There are possible records in England, but not in Norfolk.  Without further information it is impossible to connect her to any family.



(1) England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription HO 13 Correspondence and Warrants piece 40  pg 123-127 www.findmypast.com 
(2) http://www.convictrecords.com.au/ships/mary/1823  The National Archives (TNA) : HO 11/5, p.66 

Monday, October 7, 2013

Weekly Puzzle - Miss Trindle (Nurse)

On 19 March 1920, Miss Trindle age 39, a nurse whose last residence was Rangoon in Burma (now Yangon, Myanmar) , disembarked from the Lancashire (1) in London.

No first name is given.  So Miss Trindle was born between 20 Mar 1880 and 19 Mar 1881.  She was not an alien, but that means only that she was born within the British Commonwealth.  Was she born in Burma or India?  Was she born in England or some other country?

The assumption is that she probably went to Burma during the Great War as a nurse and was returning to England as the final troops were being recalled.

Can anyone give her a first name?

The 1921 census, which might help if we search for a female Trindle age 40 who is a nurse, will not be released until 2022.  A search of the 1911 census yielded one 1881 birth, Eliza in Wales.  There was also a Catherine born in 1883 in Surrey, but it seems unlikely that she would make herself older.  The same is true for Edith bn 1883 in London in 1911.  Dorothea bn 1883 also in London in 1911 appears to have died in 1919 so is out of the picture.  Are one of these three woman Miss Trindle the nurse?

(1) Liverpoolships.org - Bibby Line