Weekly Puzzle - Arthur Trindle - revisted

Sometimes looking long enough proves a connection.  The post (Charles Arthur Trendell) - Sep 23, 2013  discussed the possibility that Arthur was the son of George Trindle born in NY and died in MS. I made what seemed a good case for that supposition.  Last night I found the article that puts the "icing on the cake."  According to the Fort Scott Daily Monitor of 30 Jun 1889, Arthur's father had deserted the family and Arthur made daily trips to the water works where his father had worked trying to find some clue to his current location.

One conflict here might be that we know George the father of Arthur Trindle was a RR engineer not a stationary engineer, but further findings clarify this and continue to prove the connection.

The Wichita Beacon Sat 13 Sep 1884

The first proves the stationary engineer in Kansas City was named George.

Second are directory listings for Lydia Trindle in Kansas City in 1888-1891.  In 1888 and 1890 Lydia is listed as the "widow" of George.   This is not unusual, many abandoned and divorced women were listed as widows.

The 1888 listing showing George is already gone would work with the Nov 1887 marriage of George to Emma.

1888

1890

Of interest in 1890 is the listing in the same household of Frank a fireman.  Frank the son of Lydia and George would have been only 13 or 14 at the time, but was the only male left in the household and would have been needed to help support the family.  An index for Kansas City in 1891 on Ancestry.com lists Lydia but not Frank.  It is supposed this is the same Lydia, but is not proven.

Lydia Trindle
Location 2:	r 1124 Grand avenue
Business Name:	Crescent Laundry
Occupation:	laundress
State:	MO

Further corroboration that this is the correct family comes with a mention in the Wichita Eagle of 5 June 1884 that Gracie Trindle contributed one basket of flowers to decoration day celebration.  We have now found all family members in Kansas City except Estella.

Looking further for Grace we find that she married Martin Corbett on 23 Feb 1895.   

We are left with the following questions. What happened to Lydia?  Did she die before 1910 as she is not in MO death records as Lydia Trindle -any spelling.  Did she remarry?  Did she move?  Was there ever a divorce?  

What happened to Frank?  I have not found him in any subsequent records including 1900 census and beyond.  

Is George in fact the same George as the one who died in Mississippi.  This I believe to be true.  There are too many coincidences to believe there is another George Trindle who was a Railroad conductor and we have proven that George the Railroad conductor of Wisconsin and Minnesota is in fact George the stationary engineer of Kansas City by finding his abandoned wife and three of four children in Kansas City.   I'm still looking for current family members that might be able to clear up some of the mystery.

Weekly Puzzle - Thomas the Owler, miscreant?

Thomas Trindle owler  -  Stamford Mercury 11 apr 1717

Justice was a little more difficult in England in the 18th century.  Even though Thomas was acquitted he was not freed as the "government" appealed.  I didn't find anything more in the papers.  Did he in fact get found guilty after appeal?  Did he die in prison? Who is he? Next step would be to delve into court records.

A century later. Elizabeth Trindle was committed to the Castle in August of 1822 charged with uttering forged notes along with her companions Ann Rummer, James Drury and Peter Cannell, she was tried, found guilty and sentenced to death in March of 1823.

Norfolk Chronicle - 17 aug 1822 p 2 Postscripts

Norfolk Chronicle - 26 Mar 1823 p 4

Elizabeth was one of the lucky ones.   On 3 Jun 1823 she sailed on the Mary one of 27 convicts in a group of 127 female convicts who was transported for life.  The Mary arrived in New South Wales and Van Diemen's Land on 5 Oct 1823. (2) Anne Rummer was among those on the vessel. It appears James Drury was also transported.

(1)

But....who is Elizabeth.  Is Trindle her maiden name or a married name.  I have not been able to find any verifiable records for her in England or Australia. (Searches were made allowing for all spelling variations.) There is an Elizabeth Trindell who died in Tasmania in 1825 and an Elizabeth Trinder (father Scott Williams) who died in Victoria in 1873.  Elizabeth Trindle m. Alexander McLean in 1857 in NSW. There are possible records in England, but not in Norfolk.  Without further information it is impossible to connect her to any family.

(1) England & Wales, Crime, Prisons & Punishment, 1770-1935 Transcription HO 13 Correspondence and Warrants piece 40  pg 123-127 www.findmypast.com 
(2) http://www.convictrecords.com.au/ships/mary/1823  The National Archives (TNA) : HO 11/5, p.66 

Monthly Puzzle - Canada 1901

Found in the Census in Canada in 1901
pg 1 Ontario, District 125 Wellington North Sub-district 2 A 
Polling subdivision 2 Amaranth Twp.

Family 6 Dwelling 6
Albert Trindle M - M - head - 24 Aug 1876 ONT - Irish background - Presbyterian - farmer
J. Lucinda Trindle F - M - wife 24 Jul 1880 ONT - Irish - Methodist
Emily Trindle - F - W- mother - 29 Aug 1849 - England - imm. 1853 - English - Presbyterian
Trindle (no given name) F - S - sister - 28 Aug 1882 - Irish - Presbyterian
Pearl Trindle - F - S - Uncle (assume this should be niece)  - 13 Dec 1897 ONT

Family 7 Dwelling 7
H Walter Trinble M M - head - 13 Aug 1862 ONT - Irish - Methodist - farmer
A Susan Trinble F M - wife - 1 Jun 1868 ONT - Irish - Methodist
W Herbert Trinble M S - son - 27 Nov 1888 ONT - Irish - Methodist

Family 8 Dwelling 8
Robert Trimble M M - head - 1 Aug 1828 ONT - Irish - Presbyterian farmer
Liza Trimble F M - wife - 3 Sept 1853 ONT - Irish - Presbyterian
Matilda Trimble F S - daughter - 4 Sept 1871 ONT - Irish - Presbyterian

Are they really Trindles?  Perhaps not.  They are listed together leading one to think they are related, the rest of the listings are not in any kind of alphabetical order which is sometimes the case.

In either case they are not found in the 1911 or 1891 census with a spelling similar to Trindle.  Clues are welcome.

Did this work out?

  Friday, January 16, 1903  

Kalamazoo Gazette (Michigan) 

 p4

Josephine (St. John) was the wife of Alexander Trindle, the son of Alexander and Delitha Austell, grandson of Alexander and Sarah Crockett.

It is interesting that this plan was concocted in the beginning of 1903, Alexander was still alive, he died in October of that year in Boise, Idaho.  

Did the plan fail and they moved on to Boise?  Did he go on his own?

Josephine was probably in Malibu, California by 1910.  There is a Mrs. Trindell that would fit and I haven't found her elsewhere.  She did die in Los Angeles County CA in 1935.

I would love to know if the plan worked.  

Gregory Carl Trindle

27 Nov 1949 - 12 Apr 2015

12 Mar 2015

A native of Sacramento, Greg was a graduate of El Camino High School, American River College, and Sacramento State University.  He moved to Redwood City in 1972 when he was hired by the San Mateo County Sheriff's Office.  Over his thirty-six year career he worked in every corner of the county, spent nearly twenty years with the SWAT team and rose through the ranks to Asst. Sheriff.

Upon retiring in 2008, he enjoyed his new found leisure by traveling, fly fishing, hiking and playing with his five beautiful grandchildren Madison, Carissa and Daniston Carbullido and Alexis and Nicholas Mersch.

His two-month battle with pancreatic cancer was extremely short-lived but filled with stories, love and friendship, and vists and calls from family and friends both, old and new.  It was a time to treasure, and he made the best of it, as he always did.

Besides his grandchildren, Greg is survived by his wife of 44 years, Cath, and his two daughters, Jessica (Scott) Carbullido of Portland, OR and Andi (Eric) Mersh of San Francisco.

In lieu of flowers the family suggests donations to the San Mateo County Parks Foundation or California State Parks Foundation.

Chess board, pieces and checkers all created by Greg........

Monthly Puzzle - Albert Trindel

Found in the Duluth News-Tribune on Tuesday, 13 September 1910 ( (Duluth, MN vol 41 issue 132 p 5).  I haven't found an Albert anywhere near Minnesota in that time frame.  Any clues anyone?

Billings Park - Zenith City Archive

Monthly Puzzle - Theo Trendel and Family

On Sunday,  24 July 1892, the Daily Inter-Ocean reported the death of Carrie Eda Trindel. (Vol:21 Issue:122 Sec:2 Pg:13)

In this case the identity of Carrie is not a mystery, her parents are named as Theo and Lizzie Trindel. The spelling of the name is generally Trendel.  Theodore Trindel, bn 1866 in Illinois married Elizabeth Eichelmann(Ickerman) in Chicago in Cook County on 20 Sep 1890.  There are six other known children in the family born between 1893 and 1906, Carrie fits in perfectly, born about 10 months after the marriage.  Theo died in 1922 in Chicago and Lizzie in 1931 in Elmwood Park and according to death certificates, he was buried in Oakridge Cemetery.

 The puzzle this month is a missing cemetery record.   I found two Oakridge Cemeteries in Cook county.  One has over 10000 burials listed and the other over two, but the only Trendel found is Marie the daughter of Theodore's brother Julius.  Where is Theodore?

Theo was the son of Herman Trendel and Caroline Mack who were discussed in the 9 Dec 2013 posting on this Blog.  I have found another possible record for Herman, a birth in Prussia for a Carl Herman Trendel on 5 Sep 1838 with a baptism on 20 Oct 1838 at  Sankt Nikolai, Berlin Stadt, Brandenburg, Prussia, father Joh. Carl Trendel and mother Elisabeth Henriette Karstaedt.  As I said possible, but in no way proven and the names Carl and Johann do not seem to have been used by Herman in naming his children which makes it a little suspect.  Additionally, this appears to be a Lutheran baptism and Herman married a Catholic. The only census record found for Herman states he was born in Germany which is not very helpful and no death record has been found to date.

This is still a puzzle in progress!